GINGRICH: I am amazed at how much western elites translate reform into sex. If it doesn’t relate — if it doesn’t relate to sex, it doesn’t count. I think he’s going to challenge all of us in terms of dealing with the poor. I think he’s going to challenge all of us in terms of spirituality. I think he’s going to wrestle more than any Pope has in modern times with a part of your question, which is if Christ loves everybody, and that certainly includes people of different sexual identities, then what is the church’s relationship to everybody? And I don’t know that he’s going to come up, Piers, with what you would think of as enlightenment. But I think he may come up with some answers that are profoundly spiritual and that lead all of us to new dialogue and new conversation, in ways that, frankly, without him as Pope, we might never have imagined.